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It's a gas...

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But no one is laughing.

LA gas station this week:

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Average US gas May 2021: $3.07
Average US gas May 2022: $4.52

On average it has gone up ~$1.50 per gallon in the last year. What is this costing you?

Take your daily driver MPG, your work commute, and compare what 5 days in the office would have cost you last year to today. To keep it comparable use the prices above. If you actually think your area is much worse than the above average, show both the average and actual.

I'm going to take the Audi at 20mpg and my 10 mile round trip commute as an example:

Easy math here: 50 miles weekly:
2.5 gallons
@$3.07 = $7.67
@$4.52 = $11.30

For my car on a 5 day work commute I am spending $3.63 more a week. I'm fortunate my commute is short, and I don't do 5 days a week.

How much more are you spending for a 5 day work week to your office?
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We went from $2.67 average in 2020, about $3.80 by end of 2021 to $5.50 as of today. I'll average 2020 and 2021 to use $3.24.

Over the course of the last year I put 19k miles on the car. Won't be that much this year, but figure I'll probably do about 15k.

My average mpg has been around 23 combined. Saw as low as 17 with the trailer and high has 28 with nothing on the car. Going to be switching to premium for a year because I now have a lift and bigger tires and it's recommended to use premium when towing. Figure extra strain might be worth the better fuel. That puts current gas price at $5.85. But I'm hoping with premium mpg will even out since lost mpg with the mods. Quick calculation off last tank is just about even in terms of cost per mile.

So figure 15k miles / 52 = 285 miles a week approximately. Even just to the gym and back is over 200 a week.

At 285 / 23 is about 12.5 gallons a week.

So last year saw $40.5 a week.
This year if using 23 mpg and 87, is $68.75 a week.

About $1470 more a year.

Premium would be $73.13, or $3800 a year in gas, or about 1700 more a year
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[quote=""Duck Vader""]We went from $2.67 average in 2020, about $3.80 by end of 2021 to $5.50 as of today. I'll average 2020 and 2021 to use $3.24.

Over the course of the last year I put 19k miles on the car. Won't be that much this year, but figure I'll probably do about 15k.

My average mpg has been around 23 combined. Saw as low as 17 with the trailer and high has 28 with nothing on the car. Going to be switching to premium for a year because I now have a lift and bigger tires and it's recommended to use premium when towing. Figure extra strain might be worth the better fuel. That puts current gas price at $5.85. But I'm hoping with premium mpg will even out since lost mpg with the mods. Quick calculation off last tank is just about even in terms of cost per mile.

So figure 15k miles / 52 = 285 miles a week approximately. Even just to the gym and back is over 200 a week.

At 285 / 23 is about 12.5 gallons a week.

So last year saw $40.5 a week.
This year if using 23 mpg and 87, is $68.75 a week.

About $1470 more a year.

Premium would be $73.13, or $3800 a year in gas, or about 1700 more a year[/quote]

I knew that people wouldn't follow the situation/math I allotted to do a comparison. :lol:

That's okay, I know you don't have a regular work location to commute to. Using the gym 5x a week would have been a similar comparison using my averages though.
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Work commute is a non-issue really for us..

Beth: 3.1 miles commute. In the office twice a week.
Me: 7.3 miles commute. In the office 3 times per week.

We intentionally bought in an area that is not just really nice, but also convenient to get to places.

If I was driving the CTS: $4.24 more per week for a 4 day commute week.
But reality is that I am riding the scooter.. so.. I am paying $2.64/week in gas and am spending $6.30 less than I did with the CTS per week hah.

We do feel the higher gas prices for other driving though. The round trips to the barn and to the cabin are definitely more expensive.
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[quote=""vegasidol""]I knew that people wouldn't follow the situation/math I allotted to do a comparison. :lol:

That's okay, I know you don't have a regular work location to commute to. Using the gym 5x a week would have been a similar comparison using my averages though.[/quote]

That's why I didn't follow the rules. I never had a normal commute job.
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I'll say I average around 52 miles/day driving (24 each way to work, and then going to lunch). The RS I would say gets ~25mpg for a regular commute week. I'm going to add $0.50 to the price of that because the RS has to use premium.

So $37.13 @ $3.57/gallon
And $52.21 @ $5.02/gallon

So looks like $15.08 more per week for the RS.

For the Stealth, E85 in Jun 2021 was $2.11 and now it is ~$3.50. It gets around 17mpg on E85 with the way I drive it.

So $32.28 @ $2.11/gallon
And $53.55 @ $3.50/gallon

So looks like $21.27 more per week for the Stealth.

In reality I drive them both every week, so it's some average of that. So probably $17-18 or so more per week combined.
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My commute is about 30 steps from my bedroom to the kitchen/office
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[quote=""alienviking""]
If I was driving the CTS: $4.24 more per week for a 4 day commute week.
But reality is that I am riding the scooter.. so.. I am paying $2.64/week in gas and am spending $6.30 less than I did with the CTS per week hah.

We do feel the higher gas prices for other driving though. The round trips to the barn and to the cabin are definitely more expensive.[/quote]

Probably one of the closest comparisons. Thanks for playing along. :)

[quote=""aaronatstate""]I'll say I average around 52 miles/day driving (24 each way to work, and then going to lunch). The RS I would say gets ~25mpg for a regular commute week. I'm going to add $0.50 to the price of that because the RS has to use premium.

[/quote]

So does the Audi...but I still used the US Average so we had a baseline to compare to. :p

[quote=""Chris GTO TT""]My commute is about 30 steps from my bedroom to the kitchen/office[/quote]

A very fortunate situation. Can you calculate the difference if you were going to the office?


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I think the overall point I was attempting to make was that for most of us the gas situation doesn't make THAT big of a difference as far as what is essential to our commuting needs.

But most of us our fortunate that $10-20 a week doesn't really affect us. I keep seeing clips of the 'working man' saying he 'can't afford to go to work' anymore.

I mean, is that true? How far does your commute need to be and how little would your income need to be that you could 'no longer afford to go to work'?
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[quote=""vegasidol""]So does the Audi...but I still used the US Average so we had a baseline to compare to. :p [/quote]

Adding $0.50 to both values isn't going to change the difference between them ;)

And having to run premium vs. regular can be a difference maker...

[quote=""vegasidol""]I think the overall point I was attempting to make was that for most of us the gas situation doesn't make THAT big of a difference as far as what is essential to our commuting needs.

But most of us our fortunate that $10-20 a week doesn't really affect us. I keep seeing clips of the 'working man' saying he 'can't afford to go to work' anymore.

I mean, is that true? How far does your commute need to be and how little would your income need to be that you could 'no longer afford to go to work'?[/quote]

Depends on the definition of "the working man". If it's someone making federal minimum wage at $7.25/hour, $10-20/week is a large difference....
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[quote=""aaronatstate""]Adding $0.50 to both values isn't going to change the difference between them ;)

And having to run premium vs. regular can be a difference maker...

[/quote]

True. I guess I could have said:
2021: $1.00
2022: $2.50

Just calculating the difference we are spending. It's just that I stated the terms of the baseline and everyone is changing it. :p

[quote=""aaronatstate""]
Depends on the definition of "the working man". If it's someone making federal minimum wage at $7.25/hour, $10-20/week is a large difference....[/quote]

If that $10-$20 is hurting your minimum wage income, perhaps you need to get a bus pass. :(

I get it though. Most can afford to deal with this hike, a few can not.
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I think part of the problem is how cities here have been built. People have been moving further and further out to more "rural" suburban areas which gives them long commute distances. I have always argued this is stupid and a waste of time hah. Like I said - we intentionally bought in a central location close to jobs, close to highways in case work locations move and close to stores. I have Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, Wegman's, Publix, Kroger and more within 2-3 miles (I can walk to TJs, Whole Foods and Publix). Can walk to the gym.

Of course, people here also love humongous cars that are horrendously bad on gas, so... I do chuckle a bit when I see a soccer mom with one kid driving a brand new Escalade complaining about how expensive gas is.

I believe people in general will feel it more in increased grocery prices etc than in pure gas. Like I said, for us it is the more luxury trips of the barn and the cabin that hit us.. but those are first world problems.

Edit: Also, I wish we had better mass transportation systems here..
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We are well over 5$ a gallon here. I commute usually 25 miles a day for work roundtrip. I feel the pinch. Especially today when i have about an 80 mile roundtrip commute to our other office several times a month.

I find it funny how my 5.7L truck gets better highway gas mileage than my 3.0L and 3.8L Mitsubishi trucks.

Surprising this thread hasn't gone political. Oh wait...only lefties have commented thus far. How convenient... :d ucks:
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If i use my lexus and your numbers its $55>$80/week

If i use the sti its $36>$53/week

In reality its a bit closer because the sti takes premium, which is like $5.50 here at the moment, but still cheaper than the lexus, so i take the sti when victoria isnt at work. I dont let it bother me because i chose to move so far from work lol.
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We for the first time took my escape instead of the Tahoe to go see her parents 30 mins away. Not that we are hurting but swap out which vehicles we take a couple times and it’s all the same.


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Assuming I drive, about $8 a week total currently. The extra amount I have no idea. I only drove to work maybe once a month for the prior 5 - 6 years. This place sucks so bad that I have been driving to work since mid May.

Half the time I have to consciously keep my running pace down and watch closely for the first sign of a heat cramp.

[quote=""ChargerX3""]Surprising this thread hasn't gone political. Oh wait...only lefties have commented thus far. How convenient... :d ucks:[/quote]

Hell, I'll bite.

We went to the local Chinese place last weekend. They had to write new prices in the menu's margins in pencil.

We have had exactly one spike in inflation in our entire lifetimes before the current administration; 5% in 1990. Most of the time it was averaging around 1.5 - 2%.

Last year inflation was 7%. It's already 8.3% this year.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/i ... slfaF6gKgE

It's not the price of MOGAS for passenger cars that's a big deal for me. It's the diesel that makes everything from fertilizer to running a farm tractor to shipping the food to the grocery store cost more, and hence makes groceries cost more.
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My commute is 4.2 miles but I do a bunch of extra driving. Still fill about once a week
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