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Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:17 pm
by DCIV
Saw on Facebook this morning someone putting in a C5 front structure member that he modified into a 3/s. Then others posted up that they were too?!
Did I miss something? Why would this be something to do?
Coop
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:25 pm
by aaronatstate
[quote=""DCIV""]Saw on Facebook this morning someone putting in a C5 front structure member that he modified into a 3/s. Then others posted up that they were too?!
Did I miss something? Why would this be something to do?
Coop[/quote]
Do you have a link?
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:31 pm
by mjannusch
Is that to replace the rear subframe? I guess that might make sense if you want to change the track and run wider tires for some reason. Then you are into custom axles, etc as well. Seems like a lot of work to "fix" something that really isn't broken, but I don't know what they are trying to do with it. I'd hope it is on an 8-second 1/4 mile car or something to drop all that subframe weight way down.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:39 pm
by DCIV
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3gfgfdf ... 95?sfns=mo
It does have to do with wider tires somehow. Some good pics.
Coop
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:59 pm
by mjannusch
Hmm.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:13 pm
by aaronatstate
Some of the pictures show it as the front subframe being replaced and going to a double wishbone setup for suspension...
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:19 pm
by Jeff V.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:20 pm
by aaronatstate
It looks like they are more or less using the C5 subframes and making them work on a 3/S body. Why not just buy a C5...
Edit: What Jeff beat me to say by 1 minute

Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:34 pm
by mjannusch
Indeed.
Anyone actually going out racing on a regular basis with a 3S at this point probably should have their head examined.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:11 pm
by Jeff V.
Matt wrote:Anyone actually going out racing on a regular basis with a 3S at this point probably should have their head examined.
Exhibit A: Philip Glazatov

Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:23 pm
by mjannusch
I mean, I love 3S cars as much as anybody, but it is getting very difficult to get parts now. Yeah, you can get parted-out stuff, but the quality there is extremely variable. And there are so many better platforms now to start with, that if you actually want to race - there's essentially zero reason to do it with a 3S.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 pm
by ChargerX3
[quote=""mjannusch""]I mean, I love 3S cars as much as anybody, but it is getting very difficult to get parts now. Yeah, you can get parted-out stuff, but the quality there is extremely variable. And there are so many better platforms now to start with, that if you actually want to race - there's essentially zero reason to do it with a 3S.[/quote]
Spoken from the man who actually races one. Its sad, but true.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:00 am
by mjannusch
Case in point - my 4th gear is grindy now, and I think I must've broken the carbon synchro somehow. Can't find 4th gears laying around, so I picked up a used 6-speed trans for parts. Not sure how long I want to be doing things like that.
It did come with what looks like a new 300M output shaft though. Not bad for $1100 as long as the rest inside is okay.
I probably should sell the whole car and all my spare parts soon. Hmm. No idea what to ask for the car, and now I have to fix that 4th gear issue first.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:39 am
by DCIV
You better not sell that car!
Also so why are they doing this swap? A different suspension? Lighter? Someone help me here.
Coop
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:44 am
by aaronatstate
[quote=""DCIV""]You better not sell that car!
Also so why are they doing this swap? A different suspension? Lighter? Someone help me here.
Coop[/quote]
Looks like the front is dual wishbone which is a much better setup than a McPherson strut setup.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:59 am
by aaronatstate
[quote=""Jeff V.""]Exhibit A: Philip Glazatov

[/quote]
Exhibit B: Erron Spalsbury
Exhibit C: Dan Dillon
Not sure if anyone races them anymore except for the guy who LS swapped his.
[quote=""mjannusch""]I probably should sell the whole car and all my spare parts soon. Hmm. No idea what to ask for the car, and now I have to fix that 4th gear issue first.[/quote]
Been debating this for a bit now too. I still love my Stealth, but I dont drive it much, and parts are very hard to find. My 2nd gear is grindy at high RPMs. I have stock friction rings and 2 spare transmissions, so I hope I can cobble enough together to fix it.
Ive had this thought of selling it when I have the RS paid off and getting a used GT350 at that point. But then another part says Ive had the Stealth for 14(!) years now and Id have serious sellers remorse if I got rid of it. Also I could probably only get $10k, maybe $12k for it.
I probably should just fix the trans, finish the Brembo conversion, relocate my amp, add the powered sub I want to do (where the spare tire is), and add a receiver with CarPlay.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:04 pm
by DCIV
If you could get 10k for it...sell it. I’ve not seen anything but pure stocks, low miles go for that sort of money. I know yours is in great shape but just haven’t seen it. Hans can prob give us a better answer.
Coop
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:02 pm
by aaronatstate
[quote=""DCIV""]If you could get 10k for it...sell it. Ive not seen anything but pure stocks, low miles go for that sort of money. I know yours is in great shape but just havent seen it. Hans can prob give us a better answer.
Coop[/quote]
With everything I've done to it, I should be able to get that no problem. Might take a while, but I should be able to. That would be including all the spare parts I have for it as well.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:10 pm
by alienviking
Sell it.
Re: Well this was news to me 3/s related
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:25 pm
by mjannusch
If I could get $30,000 out of the Spyder, I'd probably have to do that. Might be a bit of a stretch, but someone would end up with a VERY nice Spyder that needs nothing.