Viper Brakes on a 3/S

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:59 pm

[quote=""Jeff V.""]I always wanted to do an AMG kit.

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What year/model are those from?

Jeff V. · Post by **Jeff V.** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:05 am

I'm not sure exactly. Early 2000s. I think they were used on a few different AMGs. The SL65 was one of them.

mjannusch · Post by **mjannusch** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:43 am

If someone makes a set of the caliper brackets, I'd buy a set from you. I just don't have a lot of time to get set up with a machine shop to do it. I don't know anyone with that capability.

Or if you want to make a "kit" with brackets, calipers, rotors, etc. ready to bolt on, I'd totally be up for that too. Obviously mark it up some for your time/effort, etc.

DCIV · Post by **DCIV** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:45 am

[quote=""mjannusch""]If someone makes a set of the caliper brackets, I'd buy a set from you. I just don't have a lot of time to get set up with a machine shop to do it. I don't know anyone with that capability.

Or if you want to make a "kit" with brackets, calipers, rotors, etc. ready to bolt on, I'd totally be up for that too. Obviously mark it up some for your time/effort, etc.[/quote]

Yeah. Buying the bracket would make this much easier. I have a shop I use but they have wait times, and I have to get over there.

I think Im just gonna run some upgraded pads for a couple more years honestly.

Coop

mjannusch · Post by **mjannusch** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:27 pm

I had looked a while back at eMachineshop.com where you put your design in their software, they quote it out and then make the parts for you. Probably more expensive, but might be an easy way to make a few if needed.

What format is your cad drawing in? Their software can import DXF, STP, STEP, IGS, IGES or SLDPRT.

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:04 pm

[quote=""Jeff V.""]I'm not sure exactly. Early 2000s. I think they were used on a few different AMGs. The SL65 was one of them.[/quote]

Looks like those calipers are basically the same as the GTR calipers. You could buy AMG calipers cheaper, then use GTR rotors since the GTR rotor has the same bolt pattern.

[quote=""mjannusch""]If someone makes a set of the caliper brackets, I'd buy a set from you. I just don't have a lot of time to get set up with a machine shop to do it. I don't know anyone with that capability.

Or if you want to make a "kit" with brackets, calipers, rotors, etc. ready to bolt on, I'd totally be up for that too. Obviously mark it up some for your time/effort, etc.[/quote]

[quote=""DCIV""]Yeah. Buying the bracket would make this much easier. I have a shop I use but they have wait times, and I have to get over there.

I think Im just gonna run some upgraded pads for a couple more years honestly.

Coop[/quote]

I didnt want the liability or hassle of making kits to sell, especially with something as critical as brakes.

[quote=""mjannusch""]I had looked a while back at eMachineshop.com where you put your design in their software, they quote it out and then make the parts for you. Probably more expensive, but might be an easy way to make a few if needed.

What format is your cad drawing in? Their software can import DXF, STP, STEP, IGS, IGES or SLDPRT.[/quote]

I can save it in any of those formats. I have it as a DXF, STP, and SLDPRT already.

mjannusch · Post by **mjannusch** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:15 pm

If you can send me a DXF, I'll try to import it into emachineshop's CAD program and get a quote to make a few sets. matt@jannusch.org

DCIV · Post by **DCIV** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:52 pm

[quote=""mjannusch""]If you can send me a DXF, I'll try to import it into emachineshop's CAD program and get a quote to make a few sets. matt@jannusch.org[/quote]

Let me know how much. I may be in.

Coop

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:59 pm

Files sent.

Hans_GZP · Post by **Hans_GZP** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:41 pm

HR suspension makes hub centric 5mm spacers that fit our cars very well.

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:09 pm

[quote=""Hans_GZP""]HR suspension makes hub centric 5mm spacers that fit our cars very well.[/quote]

I think these are the ones I got from you, and they do fit well, but with my replica 5 spoke chromies, they would not center up on the hub, so I had to add that additional ring to get them to be centered on the hub and not the lug nuts.

Jeff V. · Post by **Jeff V.** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:13 pm

Vira's wheels are that way too.

But then, so were the Enkeis I had on my Stealth. They were more of a generic fitment, so you needed the hub centering ring even without spacers.

Hans_GZP · Post by **Hans_GZP** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:09 pm

[quote=""aaronatstate""]I think these are the ones I got from you, and they do fit well, but with my replica 5 spoke chromies, they would not center up on the hub, so I had to add that additional ring to get them to be centered on the hub and not the lug nuts.[/quote]

weird. I know the 5mm spacer just hugs the stock center hub. The stock hub is long enough to still be used. So, if it centered on the hub without the spacer, it would still work with the spacer.

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:50 pm

[quote=""Hans_GZP""]weird. I know the 5mm spacer just hugs the stock center hub. The stock hub is long enough to still be used. So, if it centered on the hub without the spacer, it would still work with the spacer.[/quote]

Yeah, I think its my replica wheels most likely, or the new hubs I got may not be as long as stock or something. It was weird, it looked like it should work but it didnt. So I made those rings to solve the problem.

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:34 am

For my quarantine birthday I finally finished the rears.

I fully recommend the Evo 8/9 route for rear calipers, as they are direct bolt on with 2g rear rotors. EvoX like I had requires some modifications to work.

mjannusch · Post by **mjannusch** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:05 am

Those Evo rears look nice! Hmmm...

I got partway through getting your caliper bracket design for the Viper calipers into eMachineshop and then got stuck. I need to get back at that when work frees up a bit.

ChargerX3 · Post by **ChargerX3** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:31 pm

Those look great. Wish the fronts were as easy. Lol

aaronatstate · Post by **aaronatstate** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:42 pm

[quote=""ChargerX3""]Those look great. Wish the fronts were as easy. Lol[/quote]

With the viper front brakes, its as easy of a bolt on as any big brake kit. EvoX calipers require more since you have to change the knuckle, which wasnt working for me.

ChargerX3 · Post by **ChargerX3** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:03 pm

I know, you keep reminding me. I really like the idea, but for a car im not currently driving im not sure I want to hunt down a set just yet. Honestly 2nd Gen 3s brakes arent that bad for the driving I subject them to. Now if I actually raced them then yes, but they bite really good for 1-2 hits when there is an emergency.

DCIV · Post by **DCIV** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:32 pm

I am curious how much the adapters are to be made. I’m not in a hurry to jump on another brake upgrade but deff want upgraded brakes.

Coop

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