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Its alive!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:23 am
by Chris95RT
So I created an Electronic boost controller. Its pretty accurate considering what we(I) was given to work with.

Its using the HC11 and an example multi threaded program with some logic me and my partner came up with. It uses a GM MAP sensor, a Perrin EBC(which is so crappy), and for the boost source we're using a portable tire pressure inflater.

The concept is pretty simple, when the MAPv goes above the voltage we have set on the potentiometer the valve switches over and lets air out, as the pressure falls below the potentiometer set pressure the valve switches over and provides pressure to the MAP sensor.

Its not as quick as some of the ones out there on the market, then again I'd imagine a lot of them use PWM and some sort of PID fuzzy logic controller with a better valve. If I plan on making the switching time any faster, I'll have to move to that.

Also the valve I have is kinda crappy and doesn't respond well to being pulsed, its more of an on off type thing. But I'm still looking into playing with the duty cycle on it. Also there is NO published data on the valve, or which way the air flows... just how you hook it up to your car so we kind of had to deduce stuff from that.

The reason I did this was for a project for school as we had to create a multi threaded environment with semaphores/FIFO queues/ and TCB's. So we weren't really going for functionality, just making it work.

I think I may want to try and get it working with PWM and try and implement a PID controller over the break, but I'm not a big fan of the HC11 :\.

What I do want to try to do is create a little module that will read and store Boost and O2 values so you can read them back and graph them using something like excel and matlab. I'm thinking it wouldn't be too difficult with some flavor of a PIC and a cheap'er LCD.


Pictures and a video will be up tomorrow/Sunday for those of you who care :)

ps. eat your heart out 3s tech :) hehe.

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:38 pm
by GTO Assassin
Very interested to see your handy work Chris. ;)

Scotty

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:17 pm
by Hannibalzero
Pics or ban.

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:42 pm
by Jeff V.
That's pretty cool :)

Spend some time reading on this site. http://www.autospeed.com/
They've got a TON of DIY electronics projects. It may give you some ideas or sources for parts.

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:05 pm
by DCIV
I have read where you could make a EBC and also a stand alone unit. They all sound very interesting.


Coop

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:53 pm
by J-Groove
That is pretty awesome!

Can't wait to see it.

-John

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:01 am
by Chris95RT
Alright, first of all, the biggest problem in this design is the solenoid. It doesn't switch the way I want to, so its kind of slow to respond. Also if held tight enough the pressure stays in the line, but I digress it still works... could use a mini BOV though.

The pressure source...
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The Controller..
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The MAP/Solenoid...
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A video!
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Re: Its alive!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:33 am
by GTO Assassin
Great job Chris. I could never do something like that. Now you just need a shrink ray. :lol: :p

Scotty

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:37 am
by Chris95RT
Its not perfect, but it keeps it within a few psi.

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:39 pm
by Chris95RT
psh, no love for my gadget?

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:07 pm
by Wolf_Zero
That is pretty cool. But I don't think a super-sized BC is a good thing :p

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:12 pm
by Chris95RT
Supersized!?
The white box is just a power source, and the board is just a breadboard with pin outs for the HC11.

If I had the discrete chip it would all fit on one small breadboard, this is just for testing purposes :)

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:07 am
by Jimmy Neutron
i got lost in those acronyms, but its cool business.
does your school have an SAE club?
we were gunna build a Formula SAE car, but we got shot down by the powers that be.
My point: it sounds like you would have tho know how to build a custom ECU, my group did not a have member that could do that.

Re: Its alive!

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:09 am
by moffman93'
looks complicated