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Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:12 pm
by Jeff V.
DarkHelmet tore into the engine on his 94 R/T Turbo to fix his smoking problem. In doing so, he found these. Definitely not stock. Based on the texture, they look to be forged. Any guesses as to who makes them?
There's a number machined into the bottom of at least one of them. 17025. We can't find that number in any catalogs.
Sorry for the poor cell phone pics. I'm going to get some better ones tonight.

Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:35 pm
by CursedFish
Just based on a quick Google search (17025 piston), it appears 17025 is some sort of quality and standards stamp.
I know that's not any help at all, but just saying it's possible that it might not be a part number.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:39 pm
by Jeff V.
I figured as much. I just thought I'd toss it out there as additional info.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:25 pm
by Hans_GZP
Damn, those are some huge valve reliefs cut in there. I wonder if they were the first batch of Wiesco pistons that were made to be semi non-interference.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:33 pm
by Jeff V.
We were thinking Wiseco too, but Wayne Kassel disagrees. He didn't really explain why though.
Got any idea what those custom 8.5:1 3SX/Ross pistons look like? These are similar in shape to the Ross NA pistons, but not as tall.
I wish I could find out more info about the car itself. I've tried for half the day to track the guy down on 3SI, but apparently he didn't post there.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:39 pm
by Hans_GZP
I believe Paul H. on 3si was the one that got those wiesco pistons made up. Maybe he would know. I don't know if he posts on 3si anymore.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:35 am
by Darkhelmet
I remember when the guy I bought the car from first advertised it he stated that it had a non interference engine. which at the time I called bullshit. now I'm not so sure.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:12 am
by Jeff V.
Bottom of the pistons say DRP 289. The 17025 and the F on the top both look to have been etched by a laser. I'll put up the other pics after I eat.
I really want to know who makes these things. Google turns up nothing.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:26 am
by Monochrome
They are definately NOT JE forged pistons. Their part numbers are usually 2 numbers and 1 letter.
Most aftermarket pistons are stamped on the bottom. After you pull one, check the back side of it.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:55 am
by Jeff V.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:03 pm
by Hans_GZP
Wow, fancy. Those valve reliefs are so huge it almost looks like it would semi ruin the integrity of the piston. Cool none the less. I guess they were working ok so far haha.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:54 pm
by GTO Assassin
Very interesting. What is a 'non - interferance' engine?
Scotty
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:33 pm
by Terry
[quote=""GTO Assassin""]Very interesting. What is a 'non - interferance' engine?
Scotty[/quote]
If the timing belt brakes the piston's don't smash into the valves.
Terry
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:20 am
by Monochrome
[quote=""Hans_GZP""]Wow, fancy. Those valve reliefs are so huge it almost looks like it would semi ruin the integrity of the piston.[/quote]
...and lower the compression ratio.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:26 am
by Jeff V.
...and lower the compression ratio.
Right. Which is why I believe they're domed in the middle. I'll bet they're higher CR than stock, but my guess is not that much higher. I hope I can get some answers tomorrow.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:38 am
by GTO Assassin
[quote=""Terry""]If the timing belt brakes the piston's don't smash into the valves.
Terry[/quote]
Oh, cool. Thanks Terry.
Scotty
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:43 pm
by Jeff V.
Any of you guys know the dish volume of the stock pistons? These
are Diamond pistons

I need to either do the math on the rest of the engine using some hard to come by measurements in order to get the comp ratio, or I need to find out the stock piston volume so I can make an educated guess.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:25 pm
by J-Groove
Wow, cool find. I never knew they made pistons for our platform. I would have guess Wiesco as they look similar to my friends out of his 4G63.
-John
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:35 pm
by Jeff V.
They're custom one-offs.
Re: Name those mystery pistons
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:34 pm
by moffman93'
if u called up diamond shouldnt they have records of the sale? Which should include what CR the pistons are considering they are one-off.