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Duck Vader wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:22 pm I should pull out the vette and park it next to the outback and 250. My 3 shades of grey.

I'm hoping to get a picture of my truck with my dad's expedition and my sister's explorer... all white

America here!

I refuse to feel guilty when I take advantage of an allegedly professional salvage shop that doesn't know how to list shit correctly on eBay.

I got this thing WAY off typical retail.

Haha awesome! I love that cluster it's one of the main reasons I want a 13th gen F150 like you have lol

You look upside down in the pic.


Coop

Figured out the CAN message needed to light it up. It uses a different message format than cluster Jason sent me, but fortunately the CAN database for the newer vehicles was leaked. So it was fairly simple to find the correct data. I could have logged it out of my truck, but that would have taken a lot more work.

I still need to take it apart to dump the EEPROM and figure out how to transfer the mileage over. I don't think that's going to be too hard. I've got some other stuff to take care of first though.

Your cluster was still very valuable. I at least knew what signal it needed in order to start up. So from there it was pretty trivial to find an equivalent signal in the newer database.

I'll hopefully be able to do something similar if I decide to find all the signals to turn the warnings off. We'll see how much I decide to tinker with my 4 inch cluster once I get everything swapped out.

Crazy. Love it.


Coop

If it’s anything like other Fords it’s going to be pretty plug and play.

The only "hard thing" is getting the milage updated to match his truck. Everything else is supposed to be super easy in Forscan.

I had to send mine off to someone to do that for me.

I'm going to take care of the mileage myself. The algorithm is different from Jason's truck (different hardware supplier) and I don't know how it works. I never completely figured his algo out either. But it shouldn't matter. The 4 inch and 8 inch clusters have the same base hardware, and I know where the odo values are. So all I have to do is copy them directly over from my existing cluster. At least, I think I know all this. The only really risky part is de-soldering the damn EEPROM.

With the GM stuff, you can rewrite the odometer with diagnostic commands. It's almost offensively easy. There's probably a way to do it on Ford too, but I don't know if I'm going to go to the trouble of figuring that out. We'll see.

Well that was a debacle. This is why I didn't want to mess with Jason's cluster.

The mileage actually wasn't that big a deal. I copied over the values from my existing cluster, and it came back 2/10th of a mile low. It's really weird that it wasn't exact, but there's precious little public info on how the odometer calculation works. In any case, it's not enough to worry about. The problem was the engine hours. I didn't write them to the EEPROM because initially I didn't know where they were, and supposedly you can change that with Forscan. It kept failing for me. My only theory is that Forscan doesn't know how to correctly access a 2018 cluster that's in a 2017 truck. I got really lucky and found out where the EEPROM values were located in the 2017, and they're in different places on the 2018.

Even that wouldn't have been too big a deal, except that I had to totally disassemble the 8-inch cluster to get to the EEPROM chip. On the 4-inch cluster, it's right on the back under a plastic cover. I had to realign the damned needles over and over and over and they're still not quite perfect. I hate messing with the needles. It doesn't help that this cluster has a speaker on the back, and it sounds a dozen different loud ass error chimes every time you reboot it to check the needle alignment. I also had to take the cluster back out to the truck a couple timesto double check everything because I can't get into the engine info menus with it on my desk.

Anyway, it's all correct now. As best I can tell anyway. I still want to customize a few things like enabling the boost gauge, but it's cold and rainy and it was getting really late.

At least it looks cool.

So awesome that looks great!

Did you post about it on any ford place? Bet they will like it more than the vette people.


Coop

Nice