Figuring out tire size

[Chris GTO TT]

Coop is gunna Coop

[DCIV]

Coop is also trying to explain and understand. That doesn’t always work well.

Would wider tires help with wear when curvy roads are concerned?

Would wider tires help with handling more often than sidewall flex?

I’m just trying to get the best of what I want if I have to buy tires. Same as all of you.


Coop

[aaronatstate]

[quote=""DCIV""]Coop is also trying to explain and understand. That doesn’t always work well.

Coop[/quote]

Coop also ins't fully reading. All those questions were answered. But alas, we'll answer them again.

[quote=""DCIV""]Would wider tires help with wear when curvy roads are concerned? [/quote]

No. Especially when putting too wide of tires on too narrow of a rim.

[quote=""DCIV""]Would wider tires help with handling more often than sidewall flex?[/quote]

No. 235 profile tires are typically the widest recommended for a 7.5" wide rim. There will be no handling benefit, especially on an SUV.

[quote=""DCIV""]I’m just trying to get the best of what I want if I have to buy tires. Same as all of you. [/quote]

Yes, and multiple people have recommended the Pilot Sport AS3+ tires. They will handle better than a cheaper, wider tire. They also last around 45,000 miles (that's what the warranty is anyway). Should be plenty long enough before you get that Tahoe...

[DCIV]

The wife gets the Tahoe, this is for me. I will be driving the car for around 50k more and that sucks to have to buy tires right before I have to sell a worthless vehicle at that point.


Coop

[aaronatstate]

[quote=""DCIV""]The wife gets the Tahoe, this is for me. I will be driving the car for around 50k more and that sucks to have to buy tires right before I have to sell a worthless vehicle at that point.


Coop[/quote]

They are just warrantied for 45k, they may last longer. You can't have it all. If you want tires that last 75k, they aren't going to handle as well. You can get really awesome handling tires, but they'll only last 10k. Buy the nice Michelin now, and buy cheap tires when the Michelins wear out and you're not far from your hard stop of "around 50k". It's your choice. We made our recommendations.

[Duck Vader]

Found a pic of coop online.

[mjannusch]

We all should probably just ignore these sorts of threads. Coop's going to do what Coop's going to do, no matter what input we give.

[Toni]

Hi, here to add to the fun.

A wider tire, all other things equal, will not increase the contact surface patch area to the ground. ��

[ChargerX3]

I think we forgot to mention lockers in this thread. There must be a need for them.

[DCIV]

[quote=""mjannusch""]We all should probably just ignore these sorts of threads. Coop's going to do what Coop's going to do, no matter what input we give.[/quote]

Coop gonna because he pays for it and drives it but rest assured I more often take your all’s suggestions than don’t. Doesn’t mean I don’t want the knowledge, even if I sound like I’m arguing I’m not, just want to get all the info I can.

[quote=""Toni""]Hi, here to add to the fun.

A wider tire, all other things equal, will not increase the contact surface patch area to the ground. ��[/quote]

Wait. What? So a 235 and a 255 tire have the same contact surface patch?


Coop

[DCIV]

[quote=""ChargerX3""]I think we forgot to mention lockers in this thread. There must be a need for them.[/quote]

Always a need for them, got my 4 wheeler stuck in my driveway this weekend and though, damn....where’s the lockers.


Coop

[DCIV]

[quote=""Duck Vader""]Found a pic of coop online.

[/quote]

That’s taller, not wider....is your vehicle running yet?


Coop

[DCIV]

[quote=""aaronatstate""]They are just warrantied for 45k, they may last longer. You can't have it all. If you want tires that last 75k, they aren't going to handle as well. You can get really awesome handling tires, but they'll only last 10k. Buy the nice Michelin now, and buy cheap tires when the Michelins wear out and you're not far from your hard stop of "around 50k". It's your choice. We made our recommendations.[/quote]

Wasn’t there a long post not to long ago about how most don’t get their mileage out of Michelins? I know I don’t, great tires...just don’t last what they say it seems. Not saying I will not buy them, just don’t see them lasting long is all.


Coop

[Chris GTO TT]

[quote=""DCIV""]Wasn’t there a long post not to long ago about how most don’t get their mileage out of Michelins? I know I don’t, great tires...just don’t last what they say it seems. Not saying I will not buy them, just don’t see them lasting long is all.


Coop[/quote]

Those were different Michelin tires

[tabasco122]

FWIW my Achilles atr sport 2s have lasted 20k miles. They still have plenty of tread but they are starting to make significant noise and vibration when cold now.

[aaronatstate]

[quote=""DCIV""]Wasn’t there a long post not to long ago about how most don’t get their mileage out of Michelins? I know I don’t, great tires...just don’t last what they say it seems. Not saying I will not buy them, just don’t see them lasting long is all.


Coop[/quote]

[quote=""Chris GTO TT""]Those were different Michelin tires[/quote]

I don't remember this, but I won't buy Michelin's except for their sporty tires, which is the Pilot Sport line including the AS3+, Super Sports, Sport Cups, etc.

[Chris GTO TT]

[quote=""aaronatstate""]I don't remember this, but I won't buy Michelin's except for their sporty tires, which is the Pilot Sport line including the AS3+, Super Sports, Sport Cups, etc.[/quote]

It was the Michelin Premier LTX Tires we had on our Outback. We burned them up in 30k even though they had a 60k warranty.

I like their sports tires and their actual truck/SUV tires. The Defender LTX is still the best highway tread truck/SUV tires you can get.

[ChargerX3]

Yea, i thought Michelin LTX truck tires were supposed to be the best for traction and wear characteristics. Has that changed.

[Chris GTO TT]

It hasn't but they have expanded the LTX line to include their crossover tires the Premier LTX. We had the premier on our Outback and they were great tires except for wear.

[DCIV]

That’s what came on the wife’s edge. They wore QUICK!


Coop